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-====== July  6, 2024 ======
+====== July 6, 2024 ======
-Present:
+Present: Paul (minutes), Stormie, Len, Russ, Kate, Fred, Philip, Beryl, Ivy, Nynke, Frog, Corey (facilitator), Dwain, Leo, Phoenix, Jill, Lorenzo, Leah
-===== Meet and Greet =====
+===== Agenda Item 1 =====
-===== Review of Minutes =====
+Membership review for Keen (signed by Nynke, Don, Stormie, Lorenzo, Caitlyn, Quinn, Len, Philip, Nicholas, Chinhae, Phoenix, Mysterious Wiggle)
-===== Wiki Updates & Announcements =====
+I am calling for a membership review for Keen Maza based on the following grounds.
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+Threat of Violence:
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+On July 3rd 2024 keen was yelling in the courtyard he then started to walk across the street and
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+yelled at a couple with a stroller that he was going to Ki** them if he found out that they didn’t
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+live here.
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+He has previously told a crisis center that he was going to kill everyone that lived in the co-op.
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+He has threatened people’s animals saying that he was going to kill them.
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+Corey: There was notice of the review in paper and notice of the meeting time and agenda posted online. Keen has posted his statement, and was clearly informed.
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+Stormie: Wednesday night I heard screaming. Keen was outside and snapped at me. I heard something to the effect of “I’m going to kill you” from across the street. I heard him say “I will kill you” and then something like “if I find out you live/don’t live here.”
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+Phoenix: I heard people talking about him talking about killing pets or something. Then I saw him screaming about people wanting to kill him. It’s not an appropriate way of speaking to people, under any circumstance.
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+<Keen’s statement up to and including the “yelling at couple” bullet point is read out loud.>
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+Beryl: He has smoke sensitivity. We burned some incense for ceremonial reasons, with fair warning to him. We blocked the door gaps between us. Then he left, and then later I went outside and heard screaming. That was the preceding event.
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+Ivy: He’s said other things in other contexts where I wasn’t sure if it was a venting situation.
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+Len: I think what he thought he was saying and what he said are different. Multiple people heard something else. We’ve been kind and gone out of our way for him. It’s concerning to hear. I hear that he’s very unhappy here.
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+Point of information: He expressed to someone in the co-op that he told a crisis center that he was going to kill everyone who lived in the co-op.
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+Point of information: He told me about telling the crisis center that he wanted to “just” kill everyone in the co-op.
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+<Keen’s bullet point starting “Would have to confirm” is read.>
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+Point of information: Crisis centers are mandatory reporters. I’m sure they had reasons.
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+Point of information: That this resulted in a 911 call is not relevant to the membership review.
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+Point of information: The point is the threatening language about co-op members, told to members.
+Point of information: Suicidal ideation or self-harm are not evictable actions. Making threats to the community are evictable actions.
+Point of information: If your way of venting is to make threats to harm people, that’s not permissible.
+Frog: Lorenzo and I were chilling outside. Then Keen walked by and said to my dog, “Someone’s going to kill you and it’ll be your owner’s fault.” I was right there.
+Lorenzo: He’s said, “I’m going to kill that fucking dog” about Don’s dog.
+Kate: I’ve personally seen Keen shouting at a stranger’s barking dog.
+<Keen’s paragraph “I would hate to physically harm” is read out loud.>
+Frog: I see a lot of statements where he doesn’t apologize or acknowledge, but that part is just provably false based on everyone else’s statements.
+<The rest of Keen’s statement is read.>
+POI: Some of this language seems manipulative. I think Keen has dismissed all the claims made against Keen. I don’t feel safe with people using that language no matter what temporary frame of mind they’re in.
+Point of information: As someone autistic and someone who also has those conditions, I feel insulted and uncomfortable with his defense.
+POI: Your actions will always be your responsibility. I haven’t seen any effort to repair any damage done by these actions. He says things that don’t match up with everyone else. I don’t know how to trust that this won’t turn into something more concerning. I don’t think it’s positive or safe for the community, not just us.
+<We discuss options.>  POI: 72-hour eviction notice. He’s unsafe to us and the broader community. That’s when it’s legally allowable to have such a short eviction, for a reason.
+POI: I don’t think a behavioral contract would help. I don’t think he’s happy here.
+POI: We don’t have the resources to help when someone is having mental health issues. This violates our harassment policy, our bullying policy, multiple policies.
+POI: There’s a risk of just adding more and more things to a behavioral contract, of chasing behavior.
+POI: Behavior contracts are for people who are willing to modify their behavior. Nothing in the statement indicated that he’s willing to do that.
+<Straw poll is for a vote to notice to vacate.>
+<Paper ballot is 16-0 in favor of eviction.>
+POI: Today is Saturday July 6th. I propose a 72-hour notice to vacate posted no later than 10 am tomorrow morning.
+POI: We should put “you have a right to appeal to the board” in the notice to vacate. I’d caution against the shortest-time eviction we’re discussing. There’s a lot of ambiguity over eviction timeframes in the courts. My suggestion would be two weeks. That’s enough time to get on a board agenda, but still shorter than our normal 30 days.
+POI: I think it would be acceptable to do it shorter because of the violent nature of the actions.
+POI: Legally-speaking, eviction is permitted to be as short as 72 hours for non-payment. It’s not specified for other evictable behavior.
+POI: The board has a meeting this week. I’ll amend my proposal to file a notice to vacate for a week, which gives them time to request a board agenda item from the operations manager or the board directly.
+POI: That makes sense if we issue the notice tomorrow, and it goes for a week.
+<We agree to the one-week notice to vacate timeframe and the “right to appeal” language addition to the notice to vacate.>
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